Nip the Tip
I was going to do the meme I was tagged with from Jennine today, but I read a passing comment over at Suburban Turmoil that reminded me about something I've been meaning to write about for the last week and a half. I'll expose my weirdness tomorrow, I promise.
When you have a baby boy, one of the decisions you have to make it whether or not to the have the little guy's little guy snipped or not. Many years ago it was done as a matter of routine and parents probably didn't even get a say. It was just done. When I had the Tween nearly 12 years ago I was at least asked but the expectation was that I would have him circumcised.
And I did. Not because the doctor pressured me into it, or because his father insisted, but because I felt he should have it done. I'll get to my reasons in a bit, but I never regretted it, even though several years later my maternity nursing instructor told me I had traumatized my son for life - those were her exact words - and the trend has been increasingly moving away from not having it done.
When I learned I was having another boy, the Hermit and I discussed it and we were both in agreement - nip the tip. So towards the end of my pregnancy with Clive, I asked my OB about it. I've learned that things in Australia work differently and knew I shouldn't assume he'd be the one to do it. I was right. In fact, there is only one doctor in all of Brisbane who does circumcisions. I know we're not a big city, but only one??? And it wasn't done in the hospital? How long would I have to wait for an appointment? It was Christmas after all, and people go on long holidays at this time of year. Perhaps I should find a rabbi and claim some kind of Jewish decent through my brother Gabe in order to have it done.
Faced with these unknown factors, I thought it best to go over why I was having it done. Was I unconsciously doing it because of familial expectations? No, my feelings were my own. Was it important that Clive look like the other boys? Well then if that were the case I'd leave it alone, so that wasn't it. My reasons were medical. The incidences of some fairly nasty diseases, including HIV, are lower among men who have been circumcised. And I've seen cases where uncircumcised men ran into various problems and had to be circumcised as an adult. Not pretty. You think men are sensitive about their bits on a day to day basis? Tell them a doctor wants to cut it apart and watch their eyes.
But what about Clive's right to decide? Shouldn't I leave it for him to decide when he's old enough what to do? After all, it's his penis. I can't buy into that argument. I'll make literally thousands of decisions about what is best for my children before they reach age 18; it's my job as their parent. This is just another one of those decisions. If he wants to hate me for it later, so be it. He'll also want to hate me for making him have his hair cut or denying him that nose piercing. And for the record, the Tween shows no signs of needing circumcision counselling.
So I made my appointments, managing to get seen before Christmas, and was comfortable in my decision. I was even more so after my initial consultation and having the procedure explained. It used to be a commonly held belief that newborns don't feel pain, and so many circumcisions were done without the use of anaesthetic. Fortunately this has been proven false, and even more fortunately this doctor firmly believed in using local anaesthesia. (How many of you know of doctors who do things the way they've 'always done' despite changes or new research?) I was given a tube of EMLA cream and instructions on its use.
Two hours before the procedure I was to apply the cream to his wee bits and then wrap it in cling film. I'm not making that up. My son's privates were to be wrapped like a leftover sausage. I needed to reapply the cream and wrap every 30 minutes or so, so I broke out my scissors and Glad wrap and cut tiny squares for his use. Watching me wrap something so small was pretty funny, I have to admit.
The procedure lasted all of 10 minutes, and the only reason Clive was screaming was because he was hungry and I wasn't feeding him. That and he hates having his nappy changed anyway - he cries nearly every single time I change him, pre and post nipping. I feed him immediately afterwards and he slept on the ride home. There was no bleeding and he wasn't bothered when I bathed him that night. The Plastibell fell off 5 days later with no dramas. All in all a successful procedure.
As I sat in the waiting area confident in my decision and waiting our turn, I noticed a couple sitting across from me. The mother was a young Asian woman, and the father was an older Caucasian man. Fifty if he was a day. After the nurse took their son, the woman hunched over and started quietly crying. Not just a few tears, but silent sobbing. Her partner sat next to her, absently patting her back. I wanted to smack the man upside his balding head and tell the woman to go and collect her son. Because while I was in favour of having my son circumcised, it is an extremely personal decision. This woman was obviously distressed by it - circumcision is not common in Asian cultures - and seemed to be going along with it because her Aussie husband wanted it done. Bastard.
So the moral of my story is if you want to have it done then do so. If you don't, then don't. But respect the decision of the parents. Look at the for and against arguments and come to your own conclusions. Be in agreement. Listen to the opinions of others, but remember that opinions are just that - opinions, not facts. The fact is that baby boy is your child and you call the shots.
To nip or not to nip - that is the question.
UPDATE: Clive had his two week post-nippage check up yesterday (11 Jan) and guess what? He's fine. His bits are fine. Although I had to fight the urge to giggle when the doctor referred to the "puppy fat" that is my son's penis. Must remember to use that one some day...




12 Witty Remarks:
I knew two men (all right they were teenagers, but not boys for sure) who had to have the procedure done and I distinctly remember how much they cursed their parents for not doing it while they were infants. I know that it why I decided to have it done on your brother. It seemed that a little pain as a baby, the chances of not catching several nasty diseases, and no pain at an older age was a wise move. Since he has now become a Jew, maybe he will credit me with clairvoyance?
I am glad it went so well for Clive and for his Mom.
A co-worker of mine in his 30's had to have it done for medical reasons. He said after, that it was the most excrutiating pain he had ever experienced. It took him several weeks to heal, too.
I think you did the right thing. I've not noticed any difference in my life from it. You can't miss what you don't remember having.
Wow, what arrogance. 80% of the world is intact and quite happy.
How dare you compare permanant removal of over half the sensual nerve endings he will ever have - to a haircut?
You're wicked! You pretend you researched this and made an informed decision, but you obviously stopped reading as soon as you found something that supported what you wanted to do.
Over 100,000 men are enduring a multi-year restoration process to get back some of the protection and slack skin that was stolen.
HIS body HIS decision
Um, can you say "freak?"
Nice post, Mooselet. I'm letting the men in my life decide whether my son should be circumcised and every one of them says without hesitation, 'do it.' I think I'm going to write a post about it, too, next week. In my part of the US, most men are circumcised. I think my son would rather experience a pain that he'll never remember than the arguably greater pain of feeling freakish as an adolescent and young man.
I get so sick of the crazies coming out of the woodwork on the Internet at the first provocation, calling perfectly nice people names just because they disagree with them.
Wicked?? Is that you, my old maternity instructor?
Someone didn't read the moral of my story - respect the decision of the parents, even if it disagrees with your opinion.
Nothin sadder than a man that trawls blogs for a living on a word search. I'm glad when he 'tugs' it's with TLC - every man really should be gentle with their bits ;)
I'm glad you posted this Moosie. Babydoll & I have had some heated discussions on this very topic. I have faith that we'll work it out when the time comes. Thanks for your perspective it really is appreciated.
I think tic tugger needs some counseling. If over half the sensual nerve endings he will ever have were located in an area of that size, he is in serious trouble. He sounds an awful lot like some of the more unpleasant people I have known - agree with me or burn in h*ll.
It used to be a commonly held belief that newborns don't feel pain, and so many circumcisions were done without the use of anaesthetic.
I cringed when I read that. How horrid!
I think my mother may have asked me once if I planned to get my son circumcised, and my response was "what for?" I don't know personally any man who's had dramas one way or another... but you know what they say, the plural of anecdote is not data. Bottom line, your reasons are your own and you don't need to apologise or justify them to anyone. Period.
I wonder how "Clive" will know he's missing "over half" of his nerve endings. He won't feel any of them until puberty, and still won't know what he's missed. Yet I'm sure he'll get much enjoyment out of what he has when it comes time to experience that. I have no personal complaints.
I'll bet the so-called "80% of the world" includes those countries where their religions forbid circumcision.That should change the percentage substantially lower.
I wonder how many of those 100,000 men are only reconstructing for egotistical reasons. I bet most women don't experience any better sensations one way or the other.
Women appreciate more the men who can make passionate love to them rather than the wham-bam-thank-you-maam jerks.
"Smoking" should be done during sex, not after it.
I know, Mooselet; "DON'T GO THERE!"
I don't think lack of sensation has ever been a side effect that has been a problem for me. People come up with all sorts of weird rationalizations or defenses.
It comes down to tradition and the Hebrew faith is nothing if not sticklers for hygiene.
HHMMM. I wonder if "tic tugger" suggests that maybe his is the size of a "tic", and he's not happy about it?
Nothing like circumcision and breast feeding to bring out all sorts of views. Each to their own. My two boys aren't done. My husband is. It's not common practice here in Oz anymore.
One reason for getting the nip that really annoys me is "to look like his Dad". What the?! By the time it's the same size he shouldn't be looking at his Dad anymore. They're probably the same buffoons who won't get the snip either.
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